BV is catching a lot of unnecessary heat. If this crap persists next season, we can talk, but right now I'm chalking this up to pure no-talent trash left over by TBOW.
I'm looking at a few things right now: 1) Can this team salvage 2-3 more wins from this season...this number includes a bowl win 2) Can he hold together what remains of this recruiting class, or find similar pieces to replace defections 3) Does the D show improvement next season with "his" guys
This is all we can look at right now. I like Brent. I think he's the right guy for the job. I just can't square the fact that other coaches are winning at 1st year jobs and OU is struggling. See my initial comment, I suppose.
BV is catching a lot of unnecessary heat. If this crap persists next season, we can talk, but right now I'm chalking this up to pure no-talent trash left over by TBOW.
I'm looking at a few things right now: 1) Can this team salvage 2-3 more wins from this season...this number includes a bowl win 2) Can he hold together what remains of this recruiting class, or find similar pieces to replace defections 3) Does the D show improvement next season with "his" guys
This is all we can look at right now. I like Brent. I think he's the right guy for the job. I just can't square the fact that other coaches are winning at 1st year jobs and OU is struggling. See my initial comment, I suppose.
I think it's important to remember with regard to "his guys." 1) 2022 class was not a from scratch recruiting class. It was a hodgepodge of LR's class, a few last minute offers, and a bunch of short term rentals from the transfer portal. 2) 2023 class is still not a complete from scratch class since the recruiting cycle is at least two years for 4* and 5* athletes. Even if you claim otherwise, they will still be true freshmen.
The point being that next years team, while being more BV's guys, are not a team whose most likely contributors should be made up of BV guys. If they are, we are playing a lot of true freshmen in a system that's known to take time to learn.
BV is catching a lot of unnecessary heat. If this crap persists next season, we can talk, but right now I'm chalking this up to pure no-talent trash left over by TBOW.
I'm looking at a few things right now: 1) Can this team salvage 2-3 more wins from this season...this number includes a bowl win 2) Can he hold together what remains of this recruiting class, or find similar pieces to replace defections 3) Does the D show improvement next season with "his" guys
This is all we can look at right now. I like Brent. I think he's the right guy for the job. I just can't square the fact that other coaches are winning at 1st year jobs and OU is struggling. See my initial comment, I suppose.
Much easier to look at the record and mistakes and only focus on the negative. Waiting and having patience are difficult. People have short memories and don't recall the downward trend TBOW had this program going in. I was expecting something like 10-2, maybe 9-3 coming into the season. Got caught up in the first 3 games and got my hopes up (even with noticing some issues here and there). I have to keep reminding myself about my preseason expectations. I have to consider the position groups and what the staff has had to work with (LBs, interior DL, safeties). Is there room for improvement from the staff? Absolutely. Some of the game decisions have not been good, but hopefully they have learned from them. Honestly, now is the season to experience them not later on when the team has improved. I'm hoping Roof is gone after the season, just doesn't seem to fit. I hope they bring in a top notch WR coach. Get two very solid recruiting classes in and then let's see where this team is.
BV is catching a lot of unnecessary heat. If this crap persists next season, we can talk, but right now I'm chalking this up to pure no-talent trash left over by TBOW.
I'm looking at a few things right now: 1) Can this team salvage 2-3 more wins from this season...this number includes a bowl win 2) Can he hold together what remains of this recruiting class, or find similar pieces to replace defections 3) Does the D show improvement next season with "his" guys
This is all we can look at right now. I like Brent. I think he's the right guy for the job. I just can't square the fact that other coaches are winning at 1st year jobs and OU is struggling. See my initial comment, I suppose.
I think it's important to remember with regard to "his guys." 1) 2022 class was not a from scratch recruiting class. It was a hodgepodge of LR's class, a few last minute offers, and a bunch of short term rentals from the transfer portal. 2) 2023 class is still not a complete from scratch class since the recruiting cycle is at least two years for 4* and 5* athletes. Even if you claim otherwise, they will still be true freshmen.
The point being that next years team, while being more BV's guys, are not a team whose most likely contributors should be made up of BV guys. If they are, we are playing a lot of true freshmen in a system that's known to take time to learn.
Very good perspective on the time it takes to get a full recruiting class in. I really hope Kobie, Kanak, RSJ, Gentry, et al from the previous class pan out like we hoped.
I think it's important to remember with regard to "his guys." 1) 2022 class was not a from scratch recruiting class. It was a hodgepodge of LR's class, a few last minute offers, and a bunch of short term rentals from the transfer portal. 2) 2023 class is still not a complete from scratch class since the recruiting cycle is at least two years for 4* and 5* athletes. Even if you claim otherwise, they will still be true freshmen.
The point being that next years team, while being more BV's guys, are not a team whose most likely contributors should be made up of BV guys. If they are, we are playing a lot of true freshmen in a system that's known to take time to learn.
Very good perspective on the time it takes to get a full recruiting class in. I really hope Kobie, Kanak, RSJ, Gentry, et al from the previous class pan out like we hoped.
My biggest concern for BV is that he really depends on having talented AND smart LB's. I was listening to a Baylor podcast interviewing Stustman's dad. He was talking about how Danny got a 68 page plan for one of the games. 68 pages is a lot to consume in one week and be able to play and recognize at speed. From my standpoint I think BV's biggest mistake is trying to implement his full scheme Day One. I think he would have been better served picking either the 4-3 or the 3-4 rather than trying to run both at the same time. In particular we don't have that 5'11" 320 lb fire plug that most 3-4's rely on for their NT. We seem to do better in the 4-3 because those are the kind of players we had on campus. Maybe we could have gotten one scheme up and running before we tried to implement the other. But I'm no defensive genius, just been in a lot of organizations that tried to do too much, too fast.
Last Edit: Nov 9, 2022 15:20:02 GMT by Bob Edwards
Portal dude from ND I think. Don't think he's done much there.
We have got to stop taking other peograms' rejects from the portal. Dabo Swinney is right to avoid it. How many more busts do we need before we figure this out? JUCO and HS are the place to be.
Portal dude from ND I think. Don't think he's done much there.
We have got to stop taking other peograms' rejects from the portal. Dabo Swinney is right to avoid it. How many more busts do we need before we figure this out? JUCO and HS are the place to be.
If I were them I would be turning over every JUCO in the country looking for kids.
We have got to stop taking other peograms' rejects from the portal. Dabo Swinney is right to avoid it. How many more busts do we need before we figure this out? JUCO and HS are the place to be.
If I were them I would be turning over every JUCO in the country looking for kids.
If I were them I would be turning over every JUCO in the country looking for kids.
That’s what Bob did when he got here
But the portal is the new JUCO. I don't see as many JUCO being signed these days. There's plenty of guys with some D1 and even P5 experience in the portal.
But the portal is the new JUCO. I don't see as many JUCO being signed these days. There's plenty of guys with some D1 and even P5 experience in the portal.
Maybe so. But we run in to the same situation with NIL demands from all of the really good portal players and we don’t want to play as the high school ranks. We didn’t get one portal player other than Gabriel that is a difference maker and that is mostly because we have absolutely nothing behind him. Main thing is just go get better players anywhere you can find them.
But the portal is the new JUCO. I don't see as many JUCO being signed these days. There's plenty of guys with some D1 and even P5 experience in the portal.
Maybe, but schools are still signing some - including Bama
But the portal is the new JUCO. I don't see as many JUCO being signed these days. There's plenty of guys with some D1 and even P5 experience in the portal.
While coaches are dipping more to the portal these days than JUCO, I don't think it will replace the JUCO. The portal is filled with a lot of guys who can't play. JUCO is guys who have played and either didn't qualify or were overlooked during recruiting but did nice things in JUCO. Thank goodness we found guys like Hollywood Brown, Rhamondre Stevenson, Lane Johnson, Josh Heupel, Lance Mitchell, Donte Nicholson, Perrion Winfrey, etc , from the JUCOs.
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BV is catching a lot of unnecessary heat. If this crap persists next season, we can talk, but right now I'm chalking this up to pure no-talent trash left over by TBOW.
I'm looking at a few things right now: 1) Can this team salvage 2-3 more wins from this season...this number includes a bowl win 2) Can he hold together what remains of this recruiting class, or find similar pieces to replace defections 3) Does the D show improvement next season with "his" guys
This is all we can look at right now. I like Brent. I think he's the right guy for the job. I just can't square the fact that other coaches are winning at 1st year jobs and OU is struggling. See my initial comment, I suppose.
I now understand why they brought TD Roof in...he knows the defense and would had the other backers lined up and hitting the right holes more than not..backers are the key to his defense and we just aren't ready there...yet
BV is catching a lot of unnecessary heat. If this crap persists next season, we can talk, but right now I'm chalking this up to pure no-talent trash left over by TBOW.
I'm looking at a few things right now: 1) Can this team salvage 2-3 more wins from this season...this number includes a bowl win 2) Can he hold together what remains of this recruiting class, or find similar pieces to replace defections 3) Does the D show improvement next season with "his" guys
This is all we can look at right now. I like Brent. I think he's the right guy for the job. I just can't square the fact that other coaches are winning at 1st year jobs and OU is struggling. See my initial comment, I suppose.
I now understand why they brought TD Roof in...he knows the defense and would had the other backers lined up and hitting the right holes more than not..backers are the key to his defense and we just aren't ready there...yet
i also believe that roof is just a placeholder for someone else who wasn't quite available yet- dunno who though
Psalm 34:14: "Depart from evil, do good, seek peace, and pursue it."
"what deliverer could break the power of Pharaoh?"
I now understand why they brought TD Roof in...he knows the defense and would had the other backers lined up and hitting the right holes more than not..backers are the key to his defense and we just aren't ready there...yet
i also believe that roof is just a placeholder for someone else who wasn't quite available yet- dunno who though
Not available as in not understand the defense...he was the one that did...everyone else is still trying to learn it...we see what happens when we try to run it...first few games were just a basic D like the guys were recruited to play...hopefully by next fall we have a few backers that can play loose ...I'll be honest ...I've been really shocked by how bad the defense has been..especially along the line
